Is there some embedded information in some of these files that VLC is somehow accessing? Seems unlikely since I compressed the MP3s from tracks that I ripped and tagged myself with consistently applied OCD inspired uniformity. Great, Can I edit the tags and convert wma to mp3?
Can I bulk edit the tags and give the same album name and artist to all the file I convert? Also, is the metadata actually saved in the MP3 file? Or is it saved in VLC, associated with the file, sort of like a cookie in a browser? How do you read ID3 tags on the Android version? What ensemble is playing it? Who are the soloists? Yikes, seems like from the information feature in the app, it seems that we can only view the MP3 technical details like the bitrate.
On Mac OS Mojave This happens with. Those are the only types of files I generally work with, so I do not know if there are other files which do not behave this way. Interestingly, if I load the same audio files into an external device, such as a Sansa clip or a Fiio player, the fields are all visible. I have tested this further by loading files which I tagged with previous versions of VLC, and even files which I had tagged using XLD, and the results are all the same in the current version of VLC — some of the data appears to be missing.
This suggests that the data is not missing, it simply does not show up in VLC after the player has been closed, which makes it appear as though the data has not actually been saved, which can be confusing. On mac OS X This is likely a bug. Sunday, December 6, AM. But the ATE was broken and had to go. Thursday, December 10, PM. Saturday, December 12, AM. I'm confused on how everything was "broken". Even if it was just some sime tag editing, I don't get why it was removed.
It defintely sucks. Hopefuly someone makes a plugin to add it back. Sunday, December 13, AM. Defintely want this feature back, and the mini toolbar. Monday, December 14, PM. I'm not a programmer by any means-- I tinker. I don't write them, I don't pretend to understand how it's done-- I'm just one of those common ignorant users. That aside I totally agree with many points in this thread. Windows explorer is another worthless program for anybody with the need to move files, rename large groups of files-- on and on.
You have to apply registry hacks just to get 'move to' and 'copy to' on the right hand click menu which contrary to Microsoft has never made any of my Windows versions unstable-- any more than they already were anyway. Office , another great call by Donny above-- the ribbons are "pretty" but without the ability to customize them they are supremely inferior to Office I'll throw another 'legacy' windows program on the fire as well.
Tried to use the new MS Paint on Win 7 to touch up a few photos? It also has a pretty ribbon now-- confusing and no more features-- actually less than before-- but pretty.
WMP 12 falls right squarely in that category in my opinion as well. Microsoft in almost all components of it's operating systems seem to go for the lowest common denominator when it comes to users, thus each version gets less and less useful to anybody doing much more than 'clicking' a few buttons to get a simple job done.
I bought XP Pro, Vista Ultimate and now Win 7 Ultimate bit and you would hope for the price differential there would be the ability to customize, some additional features like the ATE included in the highest price version. You would think that but you would be wrong. Bit Locker from Vista was outclassed by many private vendors software already out. Win 7 system imaging. Acronis True Image for one, has more feature and flexibility than Win 7 Imaging every step of the way.
I spend extra money to buy a more expensive car expected to get some features I enjoy and the ability to have things the way I want them. That does not apply to Microsoft-- never has. Like one of the commentors above mentioned if the tag editor is poorly written and has problems then take the time to fix a feature-- don't drop it. And lastly though it seems MS has some well meaning, decent people generous with their time that visit and comment in this forum the folks at the top are still in the "my way or the highway", the "like it or lump it" and the "you'll take what we give you and like it" mode that makes their anti-Microsoft fan base continue to grow.
Thus Firefox, thus Open Office which could use a dose of 'pretty' and others. These are the same people that insisted Vista was a great OS and was light years ahead of XP until world pocketbooks, being thrown out of the Olympics in favor of XP and many other examples brought the light of reality back.
I don't see much in the way of additional features in Win 7. It is a little faster in booting up and shutting down, but as someone else accurately pointed out those are things that should be taken care of an in service pack, not the next version of windows.
Anyway, from the know nothing day to day user who does tinker with my music collection and did use the ATE frequently and one becoming more and more let down with Windows 7 that is my unsolicited two cents worth.
Sunday, December 20, PM. I would say the biggest reason for me is: - the ability to edit multile files with one change try changing the mood or sub genre for an entire album, band, etc. I used to do this in seconds in the old advanced editor. I don't even use sub genre anymore becuase it is too painful to use. Additional wants: - Ability to add art without having it auto resized I hate that drag and drop assumes I want all of my art at x - I miss the use of multipe genres I used to seperate genres by ";".
This means that the Genre: "Rock; Christmas: 80s" is now just "Rock". If I don't remove them I can't play my collection on random without getting chrismtas music anymore that will be fun in aug. You say I can use the autoplaylist editor and just filter them out? Great, I used to do that but WMP dropped that "Christmas" genre from my files becuase it wasn't at the front of the line - ie - before the first ";" You can do this in the library too, without the Advanced Tag Editor.
See Multi-line editing for an example. I miss the use of multipe genres I used to seperate genres by ";". Are these MP3 files? Monday, December 21, PM.
Thanks :. Tuesday, December 29, AM. Just wondering if Microsoft will ever decide to actually listen to what its paying!! Regardless of what anyone says, there was actually NO need to remove ATE, and if it was indeed that 'bad' you dont remove it, but rather make it work!! This is just one more nail in the coffin. You do not force a paid for utility onto someones own private system with no way of removing it.
And the removal of ATE is just another example I truly hate Microsofts approach of late. Just my 2c! Friday, January 1, PM. Sometimes you have to take a step back to take a step forward. The ATE was broken since near conception in a fundamental architectural fashion that would have required a near rewrite.
There's been signs of that over time that people have noticed and been pained by: I'm glad that it never bit you in the posterior. There's a important balance between "lots of features for everything" and "working excellently".
The ATE in very particular has historically had some major issues that were never dealt with for example: the lyrics area , and that lumbering zombie was killed. I'd believe that if the ATE ever existed again, it'd be done in a much smarter fashion. I have much respect for gnashing of teeth upon this, but the ATE was broken. I respect your concern and pain here. I'm a fellow hardcore music fan and want the experience to be the best possible.
Saturday, January 2, AM. Agree with other responses to this moronish response. Saturday, January 2, PM. Hey, if you have some even all troubles of editing album art on WMP 12 library, I can suggest you to do something to fix it First, download Mp3Tag.. After that, if you want to remove the album art, install this program, open it after installation finished.
And select your song, and select remove tag So, delete all of the library of your music not delete from computer, just library , And close WMP after it finished.
Than, open the folder where you save your music files. From that folder, create another folder, and move your music to that new folder from your old direction. So, the album art will not appear again Sunday, January 3, AM. I use MP3tag - its an awesome app. But the point is, IMHO, we shouldnt have to!!
We should be able to fully manage our libraries though Media Player The truth is MP, is fast becoming the most limited and crippled piece of software available and the decison makers at MS should be ashamed. However, my thanks to zachd for his continual responses to this thread Monday, January 4, PM. This is the little drop down just to the left of the Search text box.
Tuesday, January 5, AM. Based on a suggestion earlier in this thread I have been using Media Monkey for a few hours and so far have found it to be far superior to WMP all versions with one exception.
When searching a track on the computer to update media information, it frequently does not guess the correct album, more often than WMP. But the upside is that is has a drop-down menu to select alternate albums, unlike the endless scrolling through pages in WMP.
So it is still an improvement. I have been playing with the new WMP for a month and didn't figure that out. Sadly, in just 30 minutes with Media Monkey I figured out many ways to sort and look at files that are far superior, and mass tag editing is awesome. They also have default searches, like in Outlook, that they call "Files to edit".
Things like duplicates, unknown title, unknown album, etc. You might to check it out to see what the competition is doing! Tuesday, January 5, PM.
Thursday, January 7, AM. Hi, so if I want to use Media Player that comes with Windows 7 to bulk edit say, for example, a CD's album title, can I or can I not do that in one go or do I have to edit each track individually? TIA, Rich.
Thursday, January 7, PM. Multiselect the tracks in question for example, hold down the CONTROL key and click on the tracks in question and then right-click Edit on the column data of interest.
Friday, January 8, PM. I've just installed MediaMonkey and I'm impressed. Microsoft, keep this way of developing software and maybe once I'll find replacement event for Windows Saturday, January 9, PM. It's so useful for editing media information. Microsoft should fire the idiot who proposed the idea of removing it Sunday, January 10, AM.
I am still in the process of figuring out whether this problem has erased the lyrics from 's of songs I spent many years adding those lyrics to. Typical of Microsoft to do something like that. I have myself already determined that other than operating systems and office, which I need for work, I will not purchase ANY ms products. Im done. If an alternative, a true alternative to the monopoly, shows its face I will dump MS altogether. My guess is that MS is trying to push everyone to the "social" platform so they can more aggresively market their music delivery service as well as other things we dont need.
You cant even use a zune product without "social" so I returned 3 brand new zune hd's that I just purchased. They tout the social as something that improves "life" for users, and some people fall for it, but it is ONLY a marketing ploy. Sunday, January 10, PM. Zach -- I disagree with much of the premise of your argument here, but I want to say clearly that I really appreciate and respect you coming back and reading and replying to people.
I think upset customers can be a tremendous resource in helping a company or a product team to find its way. And I hope you see the passion that people have here as a good thing. I have a collection of 2, or so CD. Several hundred of them are compilation CDs that radio stations often put out during the holiday season.
I have spent countless hours use ATE to conveniently keep my collection in order. For instance, in one swoop, I could go in and make sure that the artist was clean and correct. It was SO easy to right-click and be able to make small or big changes to the album's information, be it artist, contributing artist, genre or whatever.
I used it extensively to very quickly and conveniently create custom genres for things like baseball-themed CDs or the aforementioned radio CDs. I agree that it's been a tool for hard-core, high-end users. But with regard to your statements about how it was broken, I can tell you that I never had a bad experience with it.
I understand your point about feature creep. I don't care about, say, skins or visualizations. I want a tool that allows me to best manage a large music library. I am just beginng to try WMP 12 tonight. And there are some things that I find quite interesting. I like being able to customize the navigation pane.
However, I would prefer to specify how many playlists are displayed, rather than choose between 5 or all. I love the inclusion of "contribution artist" as a field that I can now put on my navigation pane.
The "play to" feature looks like it could be truly compelling. If there's a way to have 11 and 12 co-exist on a system, I might try that as well, so that I can use 11 for media management and 12 for some of the newer features. Perhaps someone could release even the broken ATE as a power toy. I suspect a lot of us would take it in a heartbeat. Monday, January 11, AM. What's Zune? I doubt Microsoft has made a mess of WMP just to push other "social" services. The mess is only due to sheer incompetence.
Mike CV , it's not because the Advanced Tag Editor has been removed, that all the lyrics were erased. The lyrics should still be there in the actual music files, and an external tool like Mp3tag will allow you to access them. WMP 12 will also show the lyrics of the current song, if "On if available" is checked in the Play - Lyrics, captions and subtitles menu.
Monday, January 11, PM. The Tag Editor is gone, but there is an alternative. Go to "View Options" and change to "Details Vew" then, click on the category you want to change and write the information Sunday, January 24, AM. Eleven months of discussion on the absence of the tag editor but someone has the perfect solution that no-one else had found before.
Dozens of messages have been posted by idiots and we only needed one intelligent person to solve the problem. Or maybe it's the other way around? It's that simple! This is crazy, I know, but I am going to respond to the original question that prompted this long and obviously hot discussion: I loved and hated WMP11 and based on what I have read on this thread, I now think that what I hated about it may have been related to the ATE and its flawed integration with Wxplorer.
In using WMP12 Win7 , I immediately noticed the lack of the ATE, and went into sudden confusion and fear that I now had no good way to edit my music metadata conveniently. I have over 25, tracks, and all have meticulously-maintained metadata associations. WMP12 seems to be keeping this info correctly even after I tuned of read only, and changed security settings for all files.
The only issue was that 38 tunes seemed to lose all metadata and this was corrected by converting those mp3s to. SOLUTION for most of what I am hearing on this post My offer of a fix for most of the people on this forum is to simply select all tracks for a given albun in WMP12, right click, select 'open file location', right click any of the selected files in the resulting Explorer view, and edit all of the fields you want in the 'Details' tab.
This will apply all changes to all files and works just like the ATE. One could potentially use the 'Comments' field to add lyrics. Microsoft: Decent job, but lets get some feedback on future enhancements to address these obviously important user features.
Is ther any plan to increase functionality of the new WMP env? Sunday, January 24, PM. You clearly do not use your own product. Monday, January 25, PM. If the Library entry is greyed out, either your player or your library is corrupt. In either case, your problem probably deserves its own thread as opposed to being tacked onto a discussion of the late Advanced Tag Editor. Peter and all else on this thread You want lyrics and album art..
Tuesday, January 26, AM. When someone searches out a replacement for Windows Media Player they can find a replacement that plays music and manages your library at the same time. Should be easy enough to find. Thursday, January 28, AM. If I am wrong, I don't care to investigate. I also do not want 2 different players screwing up my file associations and reg settings I agree with all that it would be best to have WMP Friday, January 29, AM.
I hope we do see an update soon. Because Along with the now absent advanced tag editor there are a few other things that should be rolled back: When you drag a folderinto the player all media files in the folder should be added to your library, right?
It used ot work that way but not any more - broken. The ability to specify what folders we want to Media Player to monitor - gone. When you drag an image and drop in on an exisitng album cover it resizes and embededs the art in each media file - how about giving me some options - do I want to embed? I could go on and on but I think you get the idea. So what are our options? It does have alot of other very cool features though Hey, here's an idea: Take the team from WMP, MCE, and Zune lock them in a room and tell them they can't come out until they have a single player that does everything the other MS players do and, here's the kicker - they have to test the players first and the palyers have to work.
For the people who used to use the Tag Editor for lyrics There's a great solution.. Lyrics Plugin!! Download it from here.. It also allows you to find them yourslelf through internet..
And it automatically integrates itself into WMP12 or earlier versions.. Just Wonderful! And for the Album art, you can simple copy past it as some said..
That said, for the rest of the options in the Tag Editor, I'm not really sure i can help since i only used the Lyrics Tab. Hope it helps, Cheers from Egypt! Almost forgot: - try tagging new mp3s that are not in your "Rip" folder - doesn't work I'm so glad they took all of the broken features our of WMP. It so much better now. Friday, January 29, PM. I predicted WMP I really believed it would come because I believed in Microsoft. It didn't come. That fact has driven my current opinion of WMP and of Microsoft.
There won't be a Microsoft views WMP as a delivery system for DRM protected content in the same way that Lexmark and HP see their throw away printers as a delivery system for ink cartridges. This is now done via the music library in Explorer under Win Saturday, January 30, PM. Hi, I ran the update but still cannot see ATE. How do you get to it on yours? Thx, Rich.
Friday, February 19, PM. Yeah, no joy here either. Installed the hot fix - nothing How about rolling back this nonsense and starting over again from the XP version?
There is no doubt that Media Player has got progressively worse with each version since XP I tried the mentioned hotfix. Installed Win7 x64 , restarted, reconfigured WMP. However no Advanced Tag Editor. Kahurangikea are you sure it should contain ATE?
However the news, that it could be included with some patches is very nice. It is not included in any QFE as a surprise bonus feature: that would seem inappropriate at best. Rewriting it from scratch appears to have been a project outside the scope of the Windows 7 release.
Rewriting it from scratch probably is entirely outside the bounds of interim "QFEs" or those sort of things. It quietly fails in many cases, which helps people not to notice. So then you might argue that if you just chopped off 'the broken functionality', couldn't ATE continue to exist -- but its base implementation is the problem, and thus you're truly left in a situation where ATE as it was was deemed to completely nonviable outside of a complete rewrite that evidently wasn't part of the Windows 7 investments.
It seems like if you want to hack your system, you yourself probably could do that sort of thing. I don't know: that hasn't seemed like an effective use of my own time. The XP installer wasn't written to install upon Windows 7.
So the installer isn't going to function well, and the client is going to have problems. If you really want to hack your system, that seems like it's most globally effective as a use of your own time. The same non-trivial resources that would be required to get the XP player working upon Windows 7 probably could be off doing better more forward-looking projects. I enjoy having interesting and insightful discussions with people where we have constructive discussions leading to new insights.
It seems like this conversation has largely covered all possible pertinent points, so I think I'll bow out at this time. Zach, I do give you props for posting and addressing concerns. Though you keep saying the ATE feature was "broken". By far the vast majority of users here have not had any underlying issues with, and in fact it has caused many users to stick with WMP despite other available media players; even come to love the program.
I am one of those. I use WMP 11 at work and it's so nice to be able to right click on a file and simply choose "Find in library", or edit multiple metadata with one click.
In WMP12 it's so backwards and unintuitive that it has become a pain to use. Though I've sort of just accepted it, adding that simple feature back in would be a boon to the dang near people here who've taken the time to search out WHY it was just removed among other great WMP11 features.
I know there is nothing you can really do about it, but still. I'm still just failing to see how it was "broken". Open your media file's properties and go to the Details tab. There, click on the tag you want to edit and change its value. Launch the Groove Music app. Usually, it is pinned to your Start menu, so it is not difficult to find it. In the Groove Music app, click on "Music" on the left. On the right, locate the music file whose tags you want to edit.
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Details required : characters remaining Cancel Submit. Nothing further to add. Media Player reads all my music OK put refuses to decode track titles on an audio cd making it less than useful for ripping.
I ran Windows Update and System File Check confirming that all system files were intact and up to date. Now I can rip my home made Audio CD's and see track titles. Why couldn't Microsoft build this in? This thread is locked. You can follow the question or vote as helpful, but you cannot reply to this thread.
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